>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE ON AN IMPORTANT MATTER IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR PROGRAM, WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR PANELISTS.

STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF FROM KTRS RADIO, WENDY WIESE.

JOINING US AND TAKING THE SEAT OF BILL McCLELLAN WHO'S TAKING THE WEEK OFF, SARAH FENSKE FROM THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

AND HER FAITHFUL EMPLOYEE, MR.

RAY HARTMANN, A COLUMNIST FOR THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

AND FROM THE ST.

LOUIS AMERICAN, STLMAG.COM AND BEYOND, MR.

ALVIN REID.

BEFORE WE BEGIN DISCUSSION OF THE WEEKLY TOPICS HERE ON DONNYBROOK, WE DO WANT TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WE HAD A BREAK-IN INTO THE STUDIO LAST EVENING AND THERE WAS SOME VANDALISM TO THE STUDIO.

WE'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SECURITY FOOTAGE AND PLEASE, IF YOU CAN, IDENTIFY THE MAN INVOLVED.

THIS WAS LAST EVENING AT 11:30 IN THE EVENING.

>> OH MY GOD.

>> WHITE MALE.

>> IT'S A CLEAR PICTURE.

>> WHITE MALE.

>> APPEARS TO BE A WHITE MALE.

>> ABOUT 6'2".

>> AND HE'S WEARING -- >> YOU CAN SEE HE'S FIDDLING WITH OUR SET WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE NINE NETWORK.

DOES ANYONE KNOW THIS MAN?

>> I'VE SEEN HIM.

>> I'VE SEEN HIM -- >> I THINK I'VE SEEN HIM -- >> I'LL BE DONE.

WHAT HAS HE DONE?

>> OH NO!

>> WELL, YOU CAN SEE WHAT HE'S DONE.

HE PUT A NEW PICTURE ON THE SET WHICH HASN'T BEEN REDECORATED IN ABOUT 32 YEARS AND THERE EASY, THE HALL-OF-FAMER HIMSELF, BERNIE.

IT'S BEEN TOO LONG BECAUSE WE'VE NOT HAD A ST.

LOUIS BLUE ON THE WALL BACK THERE AND IT IS ABOUT TIME, RIGHT?

>> AND JUST A GREAT GUY.

HE'S A GREAT GUY AND OBVIOUSLY A HALL-OF-FAMER, BUT ALSO JUST A GREAT GUY.

>> I WAS TELLING THEM RIGHT BEFORE WE ROLLED THAT MY HUSBAND SAW HIM AT CYBERG'S AT THE BARS AND HE WENT FULL ON FAN GIRL.

I MEAN, HE LITERALLY -- HE AND MY SON-IN-LAW WERE BOTH LIKE THAT'S BERNIE FEDERKO!

VERY EXCITING HIM TO HAVE HIM RIGHT OVER OUR SHOULDERS.

>> ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO PUT THE SKATES ON THIS YEAR.

WE'LL BE AT THE HEAD OF THE PARADE.

>> FROM YOUR LIPS TO GOD'S EARS.

WE'LL START WITH YOU, WENDY WIESE.

BRANDON BOSLEY, A MEMBER OF THE ST.

LOUIS BOARD OF ALDERMEN SHOOK THINGS UP OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN HE ASKED THE NARVEL GUARD TO BE PLOLE -- NATIONAL GUARD BE TO BE PATROLLING THE STREETS OF ST.

LOUIS.

IT WAS REPORTED ONE OF HIS CONSTITUENTS WAS AFRAID TO TAKE THE TRASH OUT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS.

HE SAID THAT'S A FACT, THAT MAN IS IN HIS WARD.

WOULD IT BE GOOD TO HAVE A SHOW OF FORCE OF THE NATIONAL GUARD IN PARTS OF ST.

LOUIS WHERE THE HOMICIDES ARE, LET'S FACE IT, WAY TOO HIGH?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES AND DESPERATE PEOPLE OFTEN LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, TAKING DESPERATE MEASURES, AND I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT OF VIEW CERTAINLY.

I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHEN POLITICAL LEADERS WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, I WOULD QUESTION IF I HAD LOST A FAMILY MEMBER OR A LOVED ONE OR A NEIGHBOR, WHY WASN'T THAT LIFE ENOUGH?

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS A, YOU KNOW, A BRUTAL ENCOUNTER OVER SOMEBODY WHO WOULD NOT MOVE HIS CAR.

THE PERPETRATOR SHOT THE MAN TWICE, BUT EVERY LIFE TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN A LOSS, AND SO THAT IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF PUZZLING TO ME.

ALSO, WE HAD IN 2014, IN THE AFTERMATH OF MICHAEL BROWN, WE HAD UNBELIEVABLE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MILITARIZED POLICE AND THE HOLDER JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE BOTH WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT HIGHLY MILITARIZED POLICE.

SO THERE'S AN INCONSISTENT MESSAGE.

I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE, BUT -- >> WELL, I DON'T BLAME ALDERMAN BOSLEY FOR SPEAKING OUT AND BEING FRUSTRATED AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE, ALL OF US IN THE ST.

LOUIS REGION SHOULD BE UPSET AND CONCERNED AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING, BUT THE NATIONAL GUARD IS NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

IT'S A, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, THERE'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THAT RESOURCE.

IT IS NOT THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION TO CRIME.

I'D LOVE TO SIT HERE AND SAY I HAD IT, WHICH I DON'T, BUT IT'S NOT A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE OF IT, AND I ALSO WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE.

ANYTHING YOU CAN DO AT THE POLICE LEVEL TO IMPROVE WHAT AS HORRIFIC SITUATION, PARTICULARLY IN CERTAIN ZIP CODES OF THE CITY, THEY NEED TO DO IT.

BUT THIS ISN'T IT.

>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS EVEN A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I CAN'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR COMING TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SOMETHING MUST BE DONE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WITH REACTING AND OVERREACTING IN THESE SORTS OF WAYS, I MEAN, THE REASON WE HAVE THESE TERRIBLE DISPARITIES, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE CRACK COCAINE SENTENCING IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES BEING TERRORIZED BY PEOPLE ON CRACK AND WE TREATED THAT SO HARSHLY AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE, A NATIONAL FAILURE.

CALLING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD IS GOING TO LOOK GOOD FOR A DAY OR TWO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BACKFIRE SO BIG TIME.

IT'S NOT GOING TO LEAD TO CRIMES BEING STOPPED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> THE FIRST CALL FOR THIS, I WAS ON GUEST ON THE SHOW, SO THIS IS BEFORE 2010, I THINK IT WAS BOSLEY SR.

THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE OR GOING FARTHER BACK WHEN MAYOR FREEMAN GOSLY WAS IN OFFICE.

THIS IS NOT A NEW CALL AND I SUPPORTED IT THEN, SO I CAN'T TURN MY BACK ON IT NOW.

NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RHETORIC, JUST LIKE THE CHASES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN ST.

PETERS AND ALL THE THINGS WE'RE SAYING THAT ARE OUT OF LINE -- ST.

ANN, NOT ST.

PETERS.

THE TANKS ON THE CORNER AND ALL THAT, THAT'S OUT OF LINE.

BUT SOME PRESENCE ON THE STREET, AND YOU SAY CERTAIN ZIP CODES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME PRESENCE IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE NORTH SIDE, I CAN'T RULE THAT OUT.

NOW, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING THE RESPONSE WILL BE, WELL, WHAT IS NEEDED IS MORE POLICE OFFICERS.

OKAY, WHERE ARE THE POLICE OFFICERS GOING TO COME FROM?

WELL, IF THIS MARVELOUS BETTER TOGETHER PASSES AND WE HAVE ONE BIG GIGANTIC METRO POLICE FORCE, GUESS WHERE THE POLICE ARE GOING TO COME FROM?

OKAY?

THEY ALREADY CAN'T DO IT IN THE CITY, SO THEY'LL BE COMING FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO COME, YOU KNOW, COVER WHAT IS KRZ TO BE OUT OF CONTROL -- CONSIDERED TO BE OUT OF CONTROL CRIME TERRITORY.

I'M AGAINST THAT, SO YES, BEFORE YOU DISPARAGE AND TEAR APART WHAT SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, GET SOME HELP FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO SOME EUROPEAN CITIES LIKE FRANKFURT AND PARIS, YOU SEE -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NATIONAL GARKD BUT THEY'RE PARAMILITARY POLICE, BUT THEY'RE HEAVILY ARMED AND UNIFORMED.

>> AND IN ISRAEL.

>> ISRAEL, I'VE BEEN THERE.

>> I UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T TECHNICALLY POSSE COMATATIS DOES NOT TECHNICAL APPLY TO THE NATIONAL GARKD BUT THE SPIRIT -- GARKD BUT THE SPIRIT OF HAVING THE MILITARY OR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE MILITARY, AS IN WE DON'T LIVE IN A POLICE STATE AND WE DON'T LIVE IN A STATE WHERE WE WANT TO TURN TO THE MILITARY -- >> OH, WE OWE OUR CITIZENS -- >> I'M OPPOSED TO BETTER TOGETHER, TOO, BUT THE IDEA OF -- >> WE DON'T LIVE IN A POLICE STATE, BUT I THINK SOME CITIZENS DO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE UNDER SIEGE AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> HEY, LET'S MOVE ON.

ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT OUR ST.

LOUIS BLUES WHO WON LAST NIGHT IN WINNIPEG.

LET'S GO, BLUES.

THE GOALIE IS A MASTER, JORDAN BINNINGTON, BUT IT WAS REPORTED IN A WINNIPEG NEWSPAPER, A SPORTS BEAT REPORTER FOR THE SAN JOSE SHARKS, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, HE HAD INSENSITIVE TWEETS INTOLERANT, AT LEAST ONE REGARDING BURQAS.

HE REFERRED TO THEM AS DAMN BURQAS AND HE HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT A CAB DRIVER, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, THAT DIDN'T SPEAK HIS LANGUAGE.

HE DID ADDRESS IT YESTERDAY.

DIDN'T EXACTLY APOLOGIZE, AND BLUES MANAGEMENT WANTS EVERYONE TO MOVE ON.

I'M THINKING, WHAT WOULD BE SO HARMFUL FOR A GUY TO APOLOGIZE OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

AFTER ALL N A CIVIL SOCIETY, WE DON'T DERIDE THE RELIGIOUS GARB OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, DO WE?

>> WE DON'T, AND THIS GOES BACK ABOUT 15 YEARS, BUT A COACH CALLED A BLACK PLAYER A MONKEY AND HE IMMEDIATELY APOLOGIZED.

WITHIN THREE OR FOUR HOURS, HE SAID I'M SORRY, AND THEY STILL CALL HIM THE CHIEF, HE'S NATIVE AMERICAN, AND THEY SAID IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS CULTURE AND I'VE NEVER KNOWN THAT WITH ANY NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN, BUT HE APOLOGIZED AND I THINK WHATEVER SPARKED HIM TO SAY THAT, I FORGIVE THE MAN, HE APOLOGIZED.

THE SAME SHOULD BE TRUE FOR THE GOALIE.

THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH SHOULD BE THAT WAS INSENSITIVE, I'M SORRY, AND I WAS 19.

ALL OF US, IF THEY RECORDED SOME OF THE THINGS WE SAD WHEN WE WERE 19 YEARS OLD -- >> OH MY GOSH.

>> OH MY GOD, I'M SORRY, I WAS 19, JUST WHATEVER.

THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH WOULD BE I'M SORRY.

IT SHOULDN'T THAN HARD TO SAY I'M SORRY.

>> BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO DON MARSH FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, WE ARE WEAPONIZING STUPIDITY, WE'RE WEAPONIZING YOUTHFUL STUPIDITY MOST OF ALL.

THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.

YOU CAN GO BACK TO MY KINDERGARTEN GRADES AND FIND SOMETHING THAT TI SAID THAT WAS OFFENSIVE ABOUT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE, AND WHILE YES, THIS IS INSENSITIVE, MAYBE HE DOES FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I SHOULD APOLOGIZE.

IF YOU STARTED ROUNDING UP PEOPLE WHO MADE COMMENTS ABOUT CAB DRIVERS AND FRANKLY IN THE AFTERMATH OF 9/11, SOME OTHER -- AND THIS WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, SO YOU CAN'T PIN, YOU KNOW, BINNINGTON'S COMMENTS ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THERE WERE A LOT OF INSENSITIVE THINGS SAID AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT, BUT THIS WHOLE "IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO OR FEEL THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO FEEL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PA PARIAH AND FALL THROUGH THE TRAP DOOR," I THINK THAT'S AN OVERREACH.

I THINK WHAT HE SAID WAS ALL, BUT HE WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

>> I AGREE, ALTHOUGH MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH YOU IS LIKE FIFTH GRADE, NOT KINDERGARTEN.

>> OKAY.

>> NO, I AGREE.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN MY MIND BETWEEN A PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND A PUBLIC FIGURE.

HE'S A PUBLIC FIGURE, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO DEFEND WHAT HE SAID OR TWEETED WHEN HE WAS 19 BECAUSE IT WAS STUPID, BUT HE'S NOT -- IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S AN OFFICER -- WE MORPH ALL THESE STORIES TOGETHER AND WE'RE TREATING HIM LIKE HE'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

I MEAN, HE'S A HOCKEY GOALIE.

>> HE SAID THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

WHY NOT APOLOGIZE?

IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY GOT A TAPE RECORDER WHERE THEY'RE FOLLOWING HIM AROUND TO A BAR WHEN HE'S 19 YEARS OLD AND HE'S RUNNING HIS MOUTH.

HE TYPED THIS.

WHY NOT NOW TYPE "I'M SORRY"?

>> BUT WHY GO AFTER THE GARB OF RELIGIOUS MINORITIES -- >> I'M NOT DEFENDING HIM GOING AFTER IT.

IT WOULD BE EASIER, BUT THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE HIM TO TALK ABOUT.

>> BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY MAKE DISPARAGING REMARKS ABOUT HOME-SCHOOLED CHILDREN OR AMISH FAMILIES OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I MEAN, WE LIVE IN A VERY DIVERSE SOCIETY, AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS BUMPING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.

THERE IS GOING TO OCCASIONALLY BE A COMMENT THAT IS GOING TO LAND IN A SENSITIVE SPOT.

I JUST -- >> RIGHT.

I AGREE WITH YOU THERE, AND YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS CRAZY, BUT I THINK BOB EIGER, THE HEAD OF DISNEY, HE PUT IT WELL THIS WEEK.

HE ADDRESSED THE SIMON WIESE SEND THAL CENTER AND HE SAID ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAVE TO STOP HATING ON EACH OTHER.

HOW ABOUT SOMETHING INSPIRING ON SOCIAL MEDIA?

WHY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT EACH OTHER?

>> CHARLIE, I -- >> HOLD IT, HOLD IT.

THE LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THEM IN 1876 OR WHATEVER, THERE WERE MORE NEGATIVE LETTERS -- >> AND THAT WAS THE RIVERFRONT TIMES WHEN RAY WAS IN CHARGE.

>> OH, GOOD ONE!

>> MORE NEGATIVE LETTERS THAN THERE WERE POSITIVE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST THE HUMAN -- >> RIGHT, ALVIN IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT CHARLIE, ONE POINT.

I WOULD NOT HAVE EVER SAID THAT AND WOULDN'T SAY IT AND I DON'T WANT TO CONDONE IT, BUT THERE IS -- WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP SOME PERSPECTIVE HERE.

THIS IS A GOALIE.

I MEAN, HE'S NOT -- >> HE'S A LEADER NOW.

HE'S A LEADER NOW.

>> HE'S NOT A LEADER -- >> HE'S A PUBLIC FIGURE.

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] PEOPLE PAYING GOOD MONEY TO WATCH HIM AND IN A PRESS CONFERENCE, THEY LISTEN TO HIS EVERY WORD.

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> THERE'S A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY HAVING -- AND CRAIG PERUBY, A NATIVE OF CANADA, A NATIVE CANADIAN AMERICAN, WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T -- I THINK THERE'S A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION WHEN HE WAS PLAYING IN THE NHL AND GOING BACK SIX YEARS TO WHEN A KID WAS 19 AND NOT PLAYING IN THE NHL.

AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MORPH ALL THESE TOGETHER.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR COLUMN THIS WEEK.

YOU TAKE A LOOK AT BETTER TOGETHER IN THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF THE RIVERFRONT TIMES AND YOU SAY THERE IS A MOVEMENT IN JEFFERSON CITY TO THWART THAT STATEWIDE VOTE WHICH WOULD COMBINE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IN NOVEMBER OF 2020.

WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOME SORT OF STATE -- I GUESS GENERAL ASSEMBLY-LED EFFORT TO STOP THE BETTER TOGETHER MOVEMENT?

>> EASY FOR YOU TO SAY.

>> YEAH, REALLY.

>> DEAN PLOCHER, WHO'S A REPUBLICAN, AND I -- AS I SAID, OXYMORONICALLY A REASONABLE REPUBLICAN IN TODAY'S WORLD, HE'S A HERO.

FROM FRONTENAC, ONE OF THE REPUBLICANS WHO CAN WORK ACROSS THE AISLE AND HE PUT TOGETHER WHAT IS, I THINK, THE KEY, WHICH IS THAT A STATEWIDE -- WOULD BE A STATEWIDE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT NEXT YEAR, IF IT GETS THROUGH BOTH HOUSES, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WHEN COUNTIES ARE FORCED TO BE MERGED, THAT THOSE COUNTIES HAVE A VOTE IN THAT, VERY SIMPLE.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED IF IT CAN GET TO THE BALLOT.

WLAI SAID IN THE COLUMN AND -- WHAT I SAD IN THE COLUMN AND I'LL SAY HERE, I THINK HE HAS AN UPHILL BATTLE.

REX SINQUEFIELD IS NOT SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY TO BE PASSIVE IN THE PROCESS AND HE'S NOT SUBJECT TO GUBERNATORIAL VETO.

HE HAS IT OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT WHETHER IT GETS TO A FLOOR VOTE IN THE HOUSE AND THEN PASS THE SENATE AND OUT OF CONFERENCE, THAT'S A LONG WAY TO GO.

>> I HAVE TO ARGUE WITH MY OWN COLUMNIST HERE.

I GET THE SENSE THAT BETTER TOGETHER IS IN A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE AND REX SINQUEFIELD, IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT HIS RECORD, NOT JUST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT, BUT WHAT HE HAS AIMED TO ACHIEVE VERSUS HIS ABILITY TO ACHIEVE IT, HE LOSES ALL THE TIME AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID TO OPPOSE HIM PUBLICLY, BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, THEY MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY LIFT A FINGER TO HELP HIM, AND NOW THAT RAY'S COLUMN HAD SOME POLLING WITH IT, BETTER TOGETHER IS WILDLY UNPOPULAR.

YOU'RE TELLING ME IF THOSE REPRESENTATIVES COME TOGETHER WITH THE DEMOCRATS, WHO OPPOSE THIS THING ALREADY, THAT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO STOP THIS?

I THINK IT'S -- >> I THINK THE QUESTION IS -- IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE LEADERSHIP IS GOING TO LET IT PASS.

AND REX ISN'T GOING TO WASTE HIS TIME WORKING THE RANK AND FILE.

HE'S WORKING ON THE LEADERS.

I COULD BE WRONG, WE'LL SEE, BUT THEY'RE THROWING A LOT INTO THIS.

>> HE'S ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WANTING OTHER DEEP POCKETS TO GET INVOLVED.

>> PUT THEIR NAME WITH IT.

>> HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE OUT THERE ON HIS OWEN HIS CHECKBOOK, SO I THINK SARAH IS RIGHT AND YOUR POINT ABOUT HIS BATTING AVERAGE IS VERY TRUE.

>> IT'S TERRIBLE, NOT GOOD.

>> WAS NINLS SURPRISED THIS WEEK WHEN -- ANYONE ELSE SURPRISED THIS WEEK WHEN THE U.S.

ATTORNEY ASKED FOR THE RECORDS FROM PEP LOP DAS, THE CONSERVATIVE WORK THAT RUNS THE WEEKLY -- THE U.S.

ATTORNEY WAS LOOKING FOR THEIR RECORDS THIS WEEK.

I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS JOB TO TRY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THERE MUST BE A HINT OR SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING, SO HE WENT IN THAT DIRECTION TOO.

LOOK, THAT -- THOSE ARE TWO KIND OF SEPARATE THINGS.

>> THEY ARE, BUT -- >> IT'S PART OF BETTER TOGETHER.

>> I GOT TO SAY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE?

THAT ONE PERCENT SALES TAX, THAT AIRPORT, WHO KNOWS WHAT ALL THE DEALINGS THAT WENT ON WITH THAT?

AND IT JUST -- YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD FOR WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE, KEEP THROWING STUFF AT THE WALLS AND SEE WHAT STICKS BECAUSE THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTY IN MISSOURI IS ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

NOW, GOD BLESS JACKSON COUNTY WITH KANSAS CITY, BUT JOHNSON COUNTY AND THOSE TWO THE, YOU KNOW, WEST OF IT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THEY'RE IN KANSAS EVEN THOUGH THEY DO ALL THE BUSINESS IN KANSAS CITY.

ST.

LOUIS COUNTY HAS GOT THE MIGHT TO REALLY TAKE THIS ON AND I THINK YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LIKE HEY, LET'S NOT JUST SIT BACK, LET'S NOT SAY THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

REX HAS HIS MONEY AND HIS POWER AND HIS POLITICIANS, BUT TO CONCEDE DEFEAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE.

>> I'M NOT CONCEDING DEFEAT.

>> LET'S MOVE ON.

I'M SURE WE'LL GET SOME CALLS ON YOUR TURN ABOUT THIS.

RAY, YOU USED TO BE ON THE TOURISM COMMISSION FOR THE STATE OF MISSOURI AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF INCREASING TOURISM, SOME STATE OFFICIALS ARE SAYING THEY WANT A STATE LAW THAT WOULD START THE SCHOOL YEAR LATER IN AUGUST.

AS YOU KNOW, THE KIDDOS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL LIKE AUGUST THE 9th, AUGUST THE 10th, AUGUST THE 11th, AND THAT MEANS FAMILIES ARE NOT TAKING VACATIONS TO PLACES LIKE LAKE OF THE OZARKS OR THE CITY MUSEUM OR WHEREVER IN THOSE IMPORTANT TOURISM WEEKS OF MIDDLE AUGUST.

LIKE MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN AND SOME OTHER STATES, WHICH HAVE LAWS SAYING THAT SCHOOL CAN'T START BEFORE LABOR DAY, SHOULD MISSOURI FOLLOW SUIT?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT TOURISM.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT -- I MEAN, IF SOME SCHOOLS WANTED TO START LATER, THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

I THINK ITS UP TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT I THINK THE IDEA OF INFRINGING UPON THE AUTONOMY OF LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS AND EDUCATORS IN THE NAME OF TOURISM IS A BAD IDEA.

>> AGREED.

I CAN'T -- IF A DISTRICT WANTS TO START, LET THEM START WHEN THEY WANT TO, BUT TO EVEN BROACH THE SUBJECT, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO FORCE THE SCHOOLS TO START LATER BECAUSE OF TOURISM?

THAT'S REALLY KIND OF SAD RIGHT THERE.

>> WELL, WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN AND YOU GO TO PLACES LIKE MASSACHUSETTS AND PHILADELPHIA WHERE THEY HAVE OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THEY DON'T START UNTIL LABOR DAY.

>> BUT SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE ON QUARTER SYSTEM.

>> THEY ARE.

>> SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MICHIGAN, IT'S NOT 975 DEGREES COME LIKE JUNE WHEN THE KIDS ARE STILL GOING TO SCHOOL.

>> WELL, AUGUST IS NOT COOL EITHER.

>> BUT WHEN YOU'RE STARTING IN MID AUGUST, THAT'S -- I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S NOT THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER, BUT YOU START GOING INTO JUNE AND IT'S DIFFERENT.

>> THAT'S IN ST.

LOUIS.

>> I THINK EARLY AUGUST IS TOO EARLY.

I REALLY DO.

>> MOST SCHOOLS START IN MID AUGUST LIKE THE 17th, 18th.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS, BUT MOST SCHOOLS START IN WHAT WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE THIRD WEEK OF AUGUST.

>> DON'T YOU FIND, MR.

KIRKWOOD, THOUGH, THAT THERE ARE AN EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF TEACHER DAYS WHERE THEY HAVE, OH, TEACHER PREP DAY OR TEACHER CONFERENCE DAY OR THIS DAY OR THAT DAY?

>> NO, BECAUSE YOU GO TO SCHOOL A SET NUMBER OF DAYS AND THAT'S SET BY THE STATE AND AS LONG AS YOU FILL THOSE DAYS, YOU COVERED IT.

THE PROBLEM WE HAD IN KIRKWOOD WAS THE PRINCIPAL, WHEN WHY GIRLS WENT TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HAD TO SEND OUT A THING AND SAY ALL THIS THING TAKING YOUR KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO DISNY WORLD BECAUSE IT'S HALF PRICE OFF, THIS HAS TO END.

>> I NEVER LEARNED ABOUT THAT DEAL.

>> I THINK IF YOU ASK ANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER WHO IS SORT OF SIMILAR TO A LION TAMER, I MEAN REALLY AND TRULY, THEY'RE LIKE THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS, BUT I THINK IT TAKES THEM ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO GET THE KINKS OUT OF THE KIDS AND TO GET THEM TO SETTLE DOWN.

>> RIGHT.

>> SO YOU COULD TALKING ABOUT -- >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> -- OCTOBER BECAUSE MR.

FORMER YEAR-ROUND SCHOOL -- >> I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE TEACHERS AND THEY SAY THAT.

>> SARAH, THIS WEEK ALSO IN THE RIVERFRONT TIMES, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A PROPOSAL IN JEFFERSON CITY TO ALLOW CONCEALED CARRY, SPEAKING OF SCHOOLS, ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SITTING NEXT TO SOMEONE WHO'S ARMED?

>> I WOULD NOT LIKE THAT AND IF ALL YOU PEOPLE WERE ARMED, I WOULD NOT LIKE THAT EITHER.

I DON'T TRUST MY FELLOW MAN WITH A GUN.

I THINK THIS IS INTERESTING.

IT WAS A WAY TO GET SCHOOL PROTECTION OFFICERS IN THERE AND NATURALLY THIS BEING THE MISSOURI HOUSE, ANYBODY INTRODUCES AN AMENDMENT, ANYBODY AUTHORIZED TO CONCEAL CARRY, THEY SHOULD HAVE A GUN ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

>> ARE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE IF YOU GO INTO A BANK LOBBY AND THERE'S A UNIFORMED OFFICER OR GO TO A DINER AND THERE'S AN OFFICER WITH A FIREARM ON HIS HR HER SIDE?

>> THAT'S AN OFFICER, THAT'S DIFFERENT.

IF IT'S RAY -- >> WE ALL WENT TO COLLEGE, OKAY?

AND GUNS, LIQUOR, YOUTH, IT'S A DEADLY MIX.

AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE, TOO.

THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND IF YOU MAKE GUNS JUST AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY, THAT'S GOING TO FOLLOW RIGHT INTO THAT PATTERN.

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

>> BUT WHAT IF THERE WAS SOME WAY OF CONDUCTING A BACKGROUND CHECK -- AND I GUESS THIS IS A COMPLETELY CRAZY HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE THIS IS MISSOURI, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAD TO SHOW COMPETENCY WITH THE FIREARM AND SOME SORT OF DEMONSTRATED KNOWLEDGE, WOULDN'T YOU FEEL OKAY WITH SOMEBODY HAVING A FIREARM?

>> THE THING IS, THE BACKGROUND CHECK ON SOMEBODY WHO IS JUST LIKE ENTERING COLLEGE IS KIND OF LIKE GETTING YOUR CREDIT CHECKED WHEN YOU'RE 18 YEARS OLD.

IT'S LIKE IT'S SPOTLESS.

THERE GUY MUST REALLY BE RESPONSIBLE WITH MONEY, RIGHT.

>> CHARLIE, I DON'T THINK -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> NO, I DON'T WANT, TO SARAH'S POINT, I DON'T WANT ANY YOUNG HUNGOVER FRAT GUY OR SORORITY GIRL PACKING HEAT IN A CIVICS CLASS AT MIZZOU.

I JUST THINK THAT IS A -- OR EVEN BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH A GUN IN THEIR CAR.

>> THEIR DORM.

>> OR THEIR DORM, THEIR ROOMMATE -- >> BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SCHOOL SHOOTER, THE CRAZED KID SHOWS UP WITH A FIREARM?

>> I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU NO, BUT WE NEED PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS ON A CAMPUS.

WE DON'T NEED TO ARM THE KIDS PAYING TO ATTEND COLLEGE.

>> SHOW ME THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF THE CRAZED SHOOTER BEING STOPPED BY THE AVERAGE CITIZEN?

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD BECAUSE IN THE REAL WORLD, UNLIKE THE MOVIES, THE CRAZE SHOOTER DOESN'T DO A 30-SECOND SOLILOQUY EXPLAINING WHY HE'S GOING TO DO IT WHILE PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO ARM THEMSELVES.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.

EITHER YOU WANT MORE GUNS OR FEWER GUNS AS A SOLUTION OVERALL AND ALL THESE POINTS ARE GOOD ABOUT -- PARTICULARLY ABOUT CAMPUSES, WHY IT'S A BAD IDEA.

IN GENERAL, WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS I AM FOR FEWER GUNS, BUT I'M NOT FOR NO GUNS.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PEOPLE HAVING SELF DEFENSE AT HOME AND SPORTSMEN HUNTING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE -- BUT YOU CAN BE FOR FEWER GUNS AS A SOLUTION.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THERE'S NO ARMED CIVILIANS STOPPING THE SHOOTER IN A SCHOOL OR A CHURCH IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE SCHOOLS ANSWER CHURCHES ARE GUN-FREE ZONES.

>> THAT IS NOT -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS HIGH SCHOOL IN PARKLAND, FLORIDA, THEY HAD DEPUTIZED PEOPLE SITTING OUTSIDE LISTENING TO -- I MEAN AFTER A LOT OF STATE INVESTIGATIONS INTO WHAT HAPPENED, HE FROZE.

HE STAYED OUTSIDE.

>> HE STAYED OUTSIDE, YEAH.

>> OPERATOR ERROR.

>> NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

>> HUMAN ERROR.

>> I FINE IT HUMOROUS THAT CHURCHES ARE HALLOWED GROUND AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO A CHURCH, BUT PASSED A LAW THAT ANYBODY CAN BRING A GUN IN MY CHURCH?

COME ON.

>> FOLKS, LENS FIND OUT WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM, STARTING WITH LESLIE WHO WROTE, I WAS APPALLED BY THE BAND WAGON MENTALITY TO SUPPORT THE POOR VICTIM OF THE METOO MOVEMENT DON MARSH.

WOULDN'T SEASONED JOURNALISTS WONDER WHY HE WAS BEING PLON TORRES OVER HIS PRODUCERS OVER THIS FAIRLY INNOCUOUS COMMENT AND WHY HE WOULD EXPLOSIVELY RESIGN OVER THIS?

THANK YOU.

WE ALSO HEARD FROM JOHN JOHNSON.

KAREN FOSS WASN'T OFFENDED BY DON MARSH'S CAN COMPLIMENT, BUT WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT STATION MANAGEMENT WAS CAUTIOUS.

>> I LOVE DONNYBROOK AND I'M A FAITHFUL WATCHER AND HOLD THAT RAY AND WENDY WILL LOLED BACK A LITTLE MORE WHEN TAKING CALLS.

THAT PR SISTER PHYLLIS FROM ST.

LOUIS.

THANK YOU, SISTER.

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>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>> HOW ABOUT THAT BERNIE FEDERKO?

>> THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.

>> THAT WAS PRETTY COOL AND WE ARE HONORED THAT HE DID THAT FOR US.

HIS PICTURE IS THERE.

KIND OF -- I POINTED -- >> THERE WE GO.

>> OKAY, RIGHT THERE, BEHIND ME.

>> THERE BEING GO.

THANK YOU, BERNIE.

THAT WAS A SWEET OPENING AND WE'RE HONORED YOU DID THAT.

AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, THE BLUES WON LAST NIGHT.

LET'S GO, LET'S WIN THE STANLEY CUP, FINALLY.

ED, CHESTERFIELD, YOU'RE STARTING US OFF TONIGHT.

HOW YOU DOING?

>> Caller: I'M DOING GOOD.

GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

>> HI.

>> Caller: I VERY MUCH ENJOY THE SHOW.

>> THANKS.

>> Caller: I'VE GOT A COMMENT ON THE -- BRINGING THE NATIONAL GUARD INTO THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

I SPEND SIX YEARS IN THE ARMY RESERVES AND WHEN I CAME OUT, I WAS 22 YEARS OLD WHEN I WAS ON ACTIVE DUTY, I WAS GIVEN THE JOB OF GUARDING MOTOR POOLS.

AND THEY GAVE ME A RIFLE.

I HAD A HELMET AND NO BULLETS.

AND SO MY QUESTION, TOO, IS YOU BRING THE NATIONAL GUARD INTO THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS, YOU MIGHT GIVE THEM A HELMET, A UNIFORM AND A RIFLE.

NOW, ARE YOU GOING TO ARM THEM WITH BULLETS OR NOT?

YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TRAINED AS POLICEMEN AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A SITUATION THAT OCCURRED AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY THAT COST SEVERAL STUDENTS THEIR LIVES.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO BRING IN UNTRAINED POLICEMEN TO PERFORM A JOB THAT THEY JUST AREN'T CAPABLE OF DOING.

>> THANKS FOR YOUR PHONE CALL.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

MAY 4th, 1970, KENT STATE, FOUR DEAD.

BUT I WILL SAY, A SHOW OF FORCE COULD HAVE SOME RESULT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BIG PANACEA, BUT MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR OTHERS.

DON'T OUR ARMY RESERVES END UP GOING ABROAD AND PATROLLING STREETS IN OTHER COUNTRIES?

DIDN'T WE SEND RESERVISTS FROM MISSOURI TO IRAQ?

AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THINGS HERE ARE DIFFERENT FROM THERE, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> HEY, DAN -- WAS THAT DAN?

NOW IT'S DAN'S TURN.

YOU'RE NEXT.

HI, THANKS FOR CALLING.

>> Caller: HELLO.

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE SAME THING EXCEPT I THINK BOSLEY'S ON TO SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY THEY NEED TO BE OUT THERE IN THE STREET.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THEY CAN DO THAT ARE DONE -- THE POLICEMAN ISN'T THE ONLY PERSON OUT TO THE STREET.

HE'S NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOES THINGS.

THEY'RE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THEY CAN DO TO FREE UP OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND -- OTHER ACTUAL POLICE OFFICERS TO COME IN AND POLICE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE -- AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I THINK THAT OFFERS A BOOST TO THE MORALE OF PEOPLE.

BELIEVE ME, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NORTH ST.

LOUIS AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PLACES DON'T WANT THE POLICE THERE.

SOMETIMES THERE'S A MINORITY OF PEOPLE THAT DO WANT THE POLICE AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A BOOST.

THEY DO WANT IT AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY'D RATHER, YOU KNOW, BE ALIVE AND THEY THINK IF THEY SUPPORT THE POLICE, THEY'RE GOING TO END UP BEING DEAD.

IT'S A WHOLE 'NOTHER WORLD, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS BETTER TOGETHER IDEA IS NOT GOING TO FREE UP ANY POLICE TO COME INTO NORTH ST.

LOUIS.

I JUST DON'T SEE CLAYTON GIVING UP THEIR POLICE OFFICERS AND SAYING WE'LL SEND THESE GUYS OUT TO ST.

LOUIS OR ANY OTHER OTHER OF THE WEALTHIER PARTS OF THE COUNTY SENDING ANYBODY TO MORE -- >> THEY WON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

IT WILL BE ONE UNITED POLICE FORCE AND HOW THAT POLICE FORCE IS RUN WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MUNICIPALITY.

THAT'S THE THING ABOUT IT.

YOU WILL NOT HAVE CONTROL OF YOUR POLICE FORCE.

THE DECISIONS REGARDING YOUR POLICE FORCE WILL BE MADE BY THOSE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN YOUR MUNICIPALITY.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST REASON THAT I'M AGAINST BETTER TOGETHER.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR YOUR PHONE CALL.

WHO'S NEXT?

>> BILL IN NORTH COUNTY.

>> HI, BILL.

>> Caller: YEAH, I WAS ALSO GOING TO COMMENT ON THE USE OF THE NATIONAL GUARD IN ST.

LOUIS.

I THINK IT'S LUDICROUS TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT.

THERE AGAIN, I WILL CITE THE KENT STATE THING IN 1970.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE, SEVERAL STUDENTS WERE KILLED.

ALSO, AS FAR AS THE RESERVISTS, THE NATIONAL GUARD BEING SENT ABROAD, THEY ARE MEMBERS OF AN ORGANIZATION LIKE IN TRANSPORTATION, COOKS, NOT NECESSARILY MILITARY POLICE.

WHEN I WAS IN SERVICE, I WAS IN THE MILITARY POLICE AND TRAINED FOR GUARD DUTY AND FOR RIOT CONTROL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE NATIONAL GUARD THAT WAS SENT TO FERGUSON, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT UNIT WAS, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRANSPORTATION COMPANY, TRUCK DRIVERS.

I WOULDN'T WANT A BUNCH OF TRUCK DRIVERS ARMED, WHICH I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THEY WOULD BE ARMED ANYWAY, MAYBE GIVEN A RIFLE, BUT NO BULLETS, NO AMMUNITION, OUT PATROLLING AND NOT HAVING ANY TRAINING.

WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?

THE STATE?

>> YEAH, THAT'S THE PLAN.

BILL, THANKS FOR YOUR CALL, BUT DON'T FORGET, KENT STATE WAS, WELL, 30, 47 -- 49 YEARS AGO AND WE DID TRAGICALLY LOSE FOUR KIDS ON THAT CAMPUS, BUT HOW MANY KIDS HAVE WE LOST IN OUR CITY SINCE THEN?

SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T HAD SOME SERIOUS DEPTH WITHOUT THE NATIONAL GUARD HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ISSUES TO CONSIDER AND YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

BUT YOU CAN HEAR THE FRUSTRATION IN THE ALDERMAN'S VOICE WHEN HE EXPRESSES HIS CONCERN THAT SOME OF HIS CONSTITUENTS ARE AFRAID TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

BILL IN ROCK HILL.

HOW YOU DOING TONIGHT, MAN?

>> Caller: TIN SOLDIERS AND NIXON'S CALLING -- >> FOUR DEAD IN O-HI-O.

>> Caller: I HAD TO THROW THAT OUT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS CALLING ABOUT.

I WAS CALLING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BLUES GOALIE OVER THE TWEETS AND IT IS GETTING FRIGHTENING BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO COME A POINT WHERE THERE'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE ANY -- YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE HELD AGAINST YOU NO MATTER WHAT?

I MEAN, IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU DISCUSSED LAST WEEK WITH KAREN FOSS AND DON MARSH AND WITH JOE BIDEN, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING ANYMORE?

YOU KNOW, I DON'T APPROVE OF WHAT JORDAN BINNINGTON DID, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE WAS 19 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.

THINK BACK WHEN YOU WERE 19.

YOU PROBABLY SAID AND DID SOME THINGS THAT YOU AREN'T EXACTLY PROUD OF NOW.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GOING TO -- I'VE HEARD THE TERM NANNY STATE USED BEFORE AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S SLOWLY HAPPENING TO US IS WE'RE BECOMING A NANNY STATE AND THERE'S LIKE A SUBCULTURE THAT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND STUFF TO GET OFFENDED BY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

NOW BILL, I AGREE WITH YOU PRETTY MUCH 100%.

MAYBE 95%.

BUT IF U IT BLEW BACK ON YOU, WOULD YOU FIND YOURSELF TO SAY THE WORDS I'M SORRY?

BECAUSE WHATEVER CAME MY WAY, DUDE, YOU SAID THIS WHEN YOU WERE 19 OR 21, I WOULD SAY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

AND THEN I COULD LEAN ON, I'M 19, I'M 21, WHATEVER.

BUT I COULD EASILY SAY I'M SORRY AND I'M SINCERE.

AND OUR GOALIE FEELS LIKE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY HE'S SORRY.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR YOUR CALL, BILL.

LET'S MOVE ON THE TWEETS.

CRAIG RIGGINS, I'M GLAD ALDERMAN BOSLEY WALKED BACK HIS DESIRE TO HAVE THE NATIONAL GUARD PATROL PARTS OF THE CITY.

MANY OF WRUS OUTRAGED BY THE MILITARY WEAPONS AND TACTICS WE SAW IN FERGUSON.

IF THAT WASN'T ACCEPTABLE THEN, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE NOW.

I TALK TO BOSLEY ON MONDAY AND HE DINS WALK BACK ANYTHING.

>> MAYBE THAT JUST HAPPENED.

JDR 1949, IF SCHOOLS OPEN IN EARLY AUGUST, FAMILIES CAN GO TO THE TOURIST SITES IN LATE MAY.

>> AND HOLY STAR 77, ADDING MORE GUNS TO THE NICKS IS A BAD IDEA.

IF HAVING MORE GUNS MADE US SAFER, WHY WOULDN'T THE UNITED STATES BE SAFER ALREADY.

WE HAVE FAR MORE GUNS PER PERSON THAN MOST WESTERN DEMOCRACIES IN THE WORLD.

THANKS.

DON'T FORGET TO SEND THOSE TWEETS WITH THE #DONNYBROOKSTL.

>> AND WE TALKED ABOUT ISRAEL AND HOW -- IN ISRAEL, WHEN YOU TURN 18, YOU HAVE TO DO TWO YEARS OF MILITARY SERVICE, WHETHER YOU'RE IN COLLEGE OR HAVE A JOB, WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE ARMED AND YOU BASICALLY DO JUROR JOB AND TO TO COLLEGE, BUT YOU'RE PART OF THE MILITARY.

WE DON'T DO THAT IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

THEY DON'T MAKE YOU CARRY A GUN.

YOU'RE CARRYING A GUN BECAUSE YOU'RE PART OF THE MILITARY.

I DID WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

JAN IN ARNOLD.

HI, JAN.

>> Caller: HI.

I JUST HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE NATIONAL GUARD AS WELL.

I REALLY THINK THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITY, THERE SHOULD BE MORE IMPRESSION ON THE FAMILIES TO BRING UP THE KIDS TO NOT BE VIOLENT.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER, YES, BUT AT LEAST THAT'S WHERE IT BEGINS.

IT BEGINS IN THE FAMILY WHERE THE FAMILIES IMPRESS UPON THE KIDS THAT GUN SAFETY AND WHATEVER, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY I COMPLETELY AGREED WITH RAY'S COMMENT TONIGHT ABOUT THE GUN SITUATION.

AND SO FAR AS THE BETTER TOGETHER PROJECT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S SO COMPLICATED.

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES AND HAVE THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS BE A CITY WITHIN THE COUNTY AND NOT COMBINE ALL OF THIS STUFF.

LOOK AT EVEN JEFFERSON COUNTY, I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL THESE LITTLE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY, BUT THE COUNTY STILL HAS ITS OWN OFFICIALS AND WHATEVER, SO IT JUST SEEMS THAT IT'S JUST TOO COMPLICATED.

NO WONDER PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT.

>> STRONG POINTS ALL THE WAY AROUND, JAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I THINK THE QUICK ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THE REAL END GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE THE EARNINGS TAX AND TO DO THAT, THE PLAN IS TO DESTROY THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS AND REMAKE IT.

ONCE THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS IS DISINCORPORATED, THEN THE CITIZENS WON'T BE VOTING EVERY FIVE YEARS TO REINSTATE THE EARNINGS TAX.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BIG GOAL.

>> SUZANNE IN ST.

LOUIS, WHAT DO YOU SAY?

>> Caller: OH MY GOD, YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING, SO I WON'T GET ON MY SOAPBOX.

>> I LIKE THAT IS CORRECT BUT TELL US WHAT YOU CAN -- I LIKE THAT, BUT TELL US WHAT YOU CAN WITHOUT US GETTING IN TROUBLE, OKAY?

>> Caller: ONCE AGAIN, I'M RETIRED FROM ST.

LOUIS CITY AS A CIVILIAN FROM THE P.D.

AND CORE VALUES START AT HOME.

UNTIL PEOPLE START PARENTING PROPERLY, RESPECT STARTS IN THE HOME, AND ONCE YOU HAVE CHILDREN RESPECTING THEIR PARENTS, THEN IT WILL CARRY ON TO SCHOOL.

IT'S NOT UP TO TEACHERS TO PARENT YOUR CHILDREN.

IT'S NOT UP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PARENT YOUR CHILDREN.

IT'S UP TO THE FAMILY.

>> OKAY, IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, DON'T THE PEOPLE THAT -- ALL RIGHT, I RAISED MY KIDS.

THEY'RE LAWYERS, THEY'RE DOCTORS, BUT I STILL LIVE WHERE I ALWAYS LIVED AND I WANT PROTECTION.

SO IS IT FAIR FOR THEM TO ASK, HEY, LET'S HAVE SOME NATIONAL GUARD ON THE STREETS?

>> Caller: OH MY DEAR, I LIVE IN SOUTH ST.

LOUIS, I LIVE ON STATE STREET AND YES, I'M AFRAID TO TAKE THE TRASH OUT AT FIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A DRUG DEALER WHO STANDS BY THE DUMPSTER.

IF I CALL THE POLICE IN THE DISTRICT, THEY DON'T COME, NOT ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NORTH.

>> OKAY.

>> Caller: THERE IS NO POLICE PROTECTION IN SOUTH ST.

LOUIS.

I COLLECT BULLET CASINGS OUT OF MY FRONT YARD AND I WATCH MY NEIGHBORS' CHILDREN PLAY ON THE ROOF OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

SO PARENTING WILL BEGET GOOD CHILDREN.

MY CHILDREN, MY SON WENT TO A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL IN ST.

LOUIS.

HE'S AN AERONAUTICAL ENGINEER.

HE HAD A LOT OF SCHOLARSHIPS AND GRANTS.

I WAS A SINGLE MOM.

I BROUGHT MY CHILDREN UP TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG.

HE'S A GRADUATE OF ST.

LOUIS UNIVERSITY.

HE'S AN ARROW FLAUT TICK CAL ENGINEER.

YES, I'M STILL PAYING OFF THE SCHOOL LOAN, BUT EVEN THOUGH I WAS A SINGLE MOM -- >> THANKS.

THANKS, SUZANNE.

YEAH, THERE'S SOMETHING TO WHAT YOU SAY.

I SAW THIS WEEK A STORY IN THE POST-DISPATCH A 13-YEAR-OLD CARJACKED SOMEBODY AND JUST -- YOU DO WONDER.

YOU DO WONDER.

>> EXACTLY.

>> OKAY, MARK, YOU'RE NEXT.

YOU'RE IN BONNE TERRE.

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, MARK?

>> Caller: YES.

WE HAVE ALL THESE LAWS AND WE WANT MORE POLICE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF CONSEQUENCES TO CRIME THAT YOU COMMIT OR WHAT YOU DO.

DON'T SLAP A PERSON ON THE WRIST.

DON'T SAY, HEY, YOU GOT A TEN-YEAR SENTENCE AND A JUDGE OR SOMEBODY OR LAWYER LOWERS IT DOWN TO ONE YEAR.

MAKE SOME CONSEQUENCES FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THEY GIVE THE FEAR OF PEOPLE.

WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, IF WE DID SOMETHING WRONG, WE HAD DETENTION, WE HAD TO DO THIS, WE HAD TO DO THAT.

WHY IS THAT NOT ENFORCED TODAY.

THESE COPS IN THE CITY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY GO AHEAD AND ARREST SOMEBODY.

NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET WITH A TECHNICALITY, SOMEBODY FORGET TO TRACE SOMETHING HERE OR TRACE SOMETHING THERE AND SUBSEQUENTLY, THERE'S FOR FEAR OR FOR CONSEQUENCES.

>> MARK, THANKS SO MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, GO POINTS.

>> THANK YOU BUDDY, PRECIOUS IT.

>> LET'S GO TO MIKE.

GOING BACK TO ARE A FOLD AGAIN.

HI, MIKE -- TO ARNOLD AGAIN.

HI, MIKE.

>> Caller: YEAH, I WAS WANTING TO KNOW, WHY IN THE BETTER TOGETHER THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT -- >> THERE YOU GO.

>> Caller: BUT YET THEM OTHER CITIES LIKE NASHVILLE AND INDIANAPOLIS, THEY TOOK IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY TOOK IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY ARE WE NOT DOING IT?

>> AND INDIANAPOLIS DIDN'T MERGE THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS EITHER.

GOOD QUESTION.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MIKE IN SOUTH COUNTY.

GOOD EVENING.

>> Caller: YEAH, REGARDING BINNINGTON, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO THROW HIM OFF HIS GAME.

I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT BEFORE A BIG SERIES AND FROM WHAT I READ IN THE POST, HE ADMITTED WHAT HE SAID WAS KIND OF STUPID, BUT WHY THE TIMING OF IT?

AND I THOUGHT HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF STAYING FOCUSED ON WHAT HE HAD TO DO.

>> ALL RIGHT.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

HE HAD A TREMENDOUS GAME, BUT I'M -- ALL RIGHT, AND I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THIS OUT HERE.

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT NEVER RUN TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WOULD WE BE HEARING ALL OF HIS FALDEROL'S AND ALL GOING ON WILLIAM THERE'S TIMING TOO.

YOU HAVE TO LIVE UP TO WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT YOU DO.

COME ON, MAN, THAT'S HOW THINGS WORK.

>> YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING?

I HONESTLY BELIEVE, I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.

WE CAN START A BUSINESS AND WE COULD CHARGE ELITE ASH LEETS AND OTHERS -- ATHLETES AND OTHERS, WE'LL SCOUR YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA, GO THROUGH ALL YOUR TWEETS, AND WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE.

I WILL CHARGE YOU, WHAT, ABOUT 340 AN HOUR?

WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING AT?

SOMEONE CAN MAKE MONEY DOING THIS.

>> I HAVE A WITNESS, I HOPE HE'S WATCHING TONIGHT, A YOUNG LADY NAMED CHARLENE DOES A LOT OF MY FREELANCE WORK, I TOLD HER I WANTED TO CREATE ALVIN'S STAR SCHOOL AND WE WOULD DO THINGS LIKE THERE.

YOU JUST BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN.

IT'S A WINNER.

I'M TELLING YOU, WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL YOUR TWEETS AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU AND SAY THIS IS HOW YOU BE A STAR.

HE FELL SHORT AND I THINK HE SHOULD SAYING LOOK, I'M SORRY.

OKAY?

YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE GENUINE ABOUT IT.

JUST SAY I'M SORRY.

BILL IN O'FALLON.

>> Caller: HI, FIRST TIME CALLER.

>> THANKS, HI.

>> Caller: I JUST WANTED TO -- HI.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WENT TO RIGNER, GRADUATED IN 7th GRADE AND DIDN'T START UNTIL AFTER LABOR DAY AND WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING BACK IN THOSE DAYS.

I REALLY ENJOY YOUR SHOW, THANKS.

>> BILL, I WAS THE DAY AFTER LABOR DAY AND WE WENT TO JUNE TOO.

THEY HAVE ADDED SCHOOL DAYS TO THE YEAR SINCE YOU AND I WENT TO SCHOOL AND AS A RESULT, YOU EITHER HAVE TO START EARLIER OR YOU HAVE TO GO LATER BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DEMANDED SCHOOL DAYS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR THAN WHEN YOU AND I WENT TO SCHOOL.

BUT IT'S A GOOD CALL, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO.

>> OKAY.

ED IN ST.

CHUCK.

HOW YOU DOING, ED?

>> Caller: I'M DOING GREAT.

HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

>> GREAT.

>> Caller: CALLING ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND, THE PROBLEMS WITH CRIME AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND HOW TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.

I THINK IF WE HAD THE RIGHT TYPE OF COUNSELING AND THE PROPER TYPE OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

>> WELL, HOW MUCH -- WHERE DOES IT START AND WHERE IT DOES END AND IF WE BEGIN TODAY AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL TOMORROW AND SUCCESSFUL THE NEXT DAY, WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES TODAY?

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY, TO HELP MAKE THEM SAFE.

>> THANKS, ED.

>> Caller: I SEE YOUR -- >> YOU STILL THERE?

>> Caller: YEAH, I'M STILL HERE.

I THINK IT HAS TO A CONTINUOUS PROCESS.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN START IT AND JUST END IT.

IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT GOES ON FOREVER.

>> I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT -- >> Caller: THE PROPER COUNSELING AND THE PROPER AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

>> BUT ED, WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE PEOPLE TOMORROW THAT ARE SCARED TO TAKE THEIR TRASH OUT?

>> STILL THERE?

>> Caller: SAME ANSWER, I THINK.

WE GOT TO TRY AND REHABILITATE THE COMMUNITY.

>> I THINK WHAT ALVIN IS SAYING THAT YOUR PLAN MIGHT WORK, BUT IT WILL TAKE TEN TO 20 YEARS TO KICK IN, SO WHAT DO YOU DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN?

>> Caller: I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE THAT LONG.

NO, IT WOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG IF WE HAD THE PROPER AMOUNT OF COUNSELING AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I HEAR YOU, ED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOING TO MOVE ON.

CAROL IN ST.

PETERS.

HI, CAROL.

>> Caller: YES.

HELLO?

>> GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> Caller: YES.

UNTIL PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE CONTROL BACK OF THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN, WE'RE GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE PROBLEMS.

>> WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD IT.

WHO TOOK AWAY THE RIGHT TO CONTROL THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN?

>> Caller: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, BY LAW, EVERYBODY HAS DECIDED THAT I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO PARENT AND TO TRAIN MY CHILDREN THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE.

>> HOW IS THAT?

WAIT, WAIT, HOW?

>> Caller: THE SCHOOLS -- >> TURN YOUR TV OFF.

>> Caller: I DON'T HAVE A NAME THAT WHO TOOK AWAY THE RIGHT, BUT I -- IF I REPRIMAND MY CHILD, THEN I HAVE A PROBLEM.

>> HOW?

>> Caller: HUSH, LISTEN.

DON'T KEEP ASKING ME HOW.

IF I AS A PARENT DON'T HAVE A RIGHT, IF I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO TRAIN MY CHILDREN AND TO DISCIPLINE MY CHILDREN THE WAY THAT I SEE FIT, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL.

NOW, EVERYONE ELSE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILD, BUT I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO TELL YOU.

WHEN THE POLICE BEAT MY CHILD, IT'S OKAY.

IF I SPANK MY CHILD, THEN I'M AN ABUSER.

UNTIL WE TAKE CONTROL BACK OF OUR CHILDREN, OUR CHURCHES HAVE LET OUR CHILDREN DOWN, SCHOOLS HAVE LET OUR CHILDREN DOWN AND PARENTS HAVE LET OUR CHILDREN DOWN.

>> WAIT A MINUTE.

I GOT SPANKED, OKAY?

THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM SPANKING YOUR KID.

>> Caller: BUT IF THE NEIGHBOR CALLS AND SAYS SHE SPANKED HER CHILD, DEVELOPMENT COMES HERE AND SAY YOU'RE CHILD IS ABUSED.

>> IF YOU SPANK YOUR KID IN YOUR HOUSE IN YOUR PRIVACY, WHATEVER, I THINK THAT'S -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

>> Caller: I DON'T THINK IT IS EITHER, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN THAT SOMEONE ELSE DECIDES I'M SPEAKING TOO HARSHLY TO MY CHILD, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IF I SPANK MY CHILD, THEY SAY HE'S BEING ABUSED, BUT NOW THE POLICE KNOCK HIM DOWN AND PUT HIS FACE DOWN ON THE TREES, THAT'S OKAY AND THAT'S NOT ABUSE.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND THEY'RE DOING THIS AT THE TIME HE'S OUT OF CONTROL.

>> Caller: HE'S OUT OF CONTROL BECAUSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE ANYMORE CONTROL.

YOU DECIDE WHERE MY CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL.

MY CHILD GETS UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING -- I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY.

ALVIN, ALVIN, I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY.

NO ONE SPEAKS UP ANYMORE AS TO WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG.

>> NO, I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

I'M SORRY, CAROL, I DISAGREE WITH YOU, OKAY?

>> Caller: WELL, YOU HAVE CHILDREN?

>> YES, I DO.

>> Caller: I HAVE CHILDREN AND I SEE TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE.

YOU GO TO THE SCHOOLS, OUR BOYS ARE OUT OF CONTROL, THE GIRLS ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

THE TEACHERS CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.

THERE WAS JUST AN INCIDENT WHERE THE TWO KIDS WERE FIGHTING AND THE TEACHERS WERE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO STOP THE KIDS FROM FIGHTING.

>> I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT THANK YOU, CAROL.

>> Caller: IT HAPPENED IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

>> THANKS FOR THE GREAT CALL, BUT WE WANT TO GET A FEW MORE CALLS IN BEFORE THIS HALF HOUR IS OVER AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, CAROL.

I LOVE DEBATING WITH YOU AND YOU'RE VERY SINCERE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE WRONG, BUT WE GO BACK AND FORTH.

THIS IS DONNYBROOK AND I LOVE YOU.

DANNY, MONROE CITY, HI.

>> Caller: HELLO THERE, GUYS.

>> HEY, DANNY.

>> Caller: YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL GUARD NOT BEING TRAINED TO TAKE CARE OF POLICE MATTERS.

THE HANNIBAL NATIONAL GUARD UP HERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- OF COURSE, THEY'RE NONEXISTENT ANYMORE, BUT THE NATIONAL GUARD ARE TRAINED HIGHLY TO TAKE CARE OF THE RIOTS WITHOUT ALTERCATIONS AND OUR GOVERNOR BACK IN THE FERGUSON DAYS TOLD THEM TO STAND BACK AND LET THEM DEMORALIZE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY DOWN THERE.

>> WE'LL BE DEBATING THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

THANKS FOR THE CALL, BUT WE DIDN'T LOSE ANY LIVES AFTER MICHAEL BROWN LOST HIS.

THAT'S ONE ASPECT OF FERGUSON.

CHRISTY IN AFFTON, YOU'RE ON KMO -- YOU'RE A KETC, THE NINE NETWORK.

SORRY, OLD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK.

I AM SO SORRY.

I'M GOING TO GET SPANKED FOR THAT.

>> Caller: THAT'S OKAY.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> Caller: THAT'S OKAY.

I AM LONG RETIRED, BUT I'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND IN THE AFTERNOON AND I PASS MY OLD HIGH SCHOOL WHERE I WENT, I PASS MY OLD GRADE SCHOOL WHERE I WENT, AND KIDS ARE POURING OUT OF THOSE SCHOOLS AT 2:15 IN THE AFTERNOON.

WE STARTED AFTER LABOR DAY, BUT WE WENT TILL 3:30.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE SCHOOL CALENDAR WAS SHORT, LIKE ALVIN SAID BEFORE, IT WAS FROM AFTER LABOR DAY UNTIL THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE.

SO I THINK ADDING A FEW -- I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THESE GRADE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS LETTING OUT AT 2:15 IN THE AFTERNOON.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

>> THAT'S A SHORT DAY.

>> CHRISTY, MY DAUGHTER STARTS AT 7:50 IN THE MORNING OFFICIALLY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO START THAT EARLY.

THAT WAS ONE THING.

AND TOO, WHAT YEAR DID YOU GRUT FROM AFTERTON?

>> Caller: WE STARTED AT 8:00 A.M.

OF COURSE IT WAS CATHOLIC SCHOOL, SO YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN PLENTY OF CHURCH TIME, BUT WE STILL GOT OUT AT 3:30 BECAUSE I YAD TO WALK HOME IN TIME TO GET HOME BY 4:00 TO WATCH THE EARLY SHOW WITH MY MOM.

I THINK -- THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM, I THINK TO, ADD ON AT LEAST 45 MINUTES OR AN HOUR TO THE AVERAGE SCHOOL DAY.

>> MAYBE SO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

TIM IN BALLWIN.

HI, TIM?

>> Caller: HI, HOW ARE YOU?

>> GOOD.

>> Caller: ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION.

WHO'S IN THAT PICTURE OVER ALVIN'S RIGHT SHOULDER?

>> WELL, YOU'RE RICE -- RIGHT -- ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY AND MARTIN DUGGAN RIGHT NOW?

>> Caller: IS THAT WHO THAT IS?

>> YEAH, HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF DONNYBROOK AND MAE HIS LOVELY WHY.

THERE GUY BACK HERE, THAT'S BERNIE FEDERKO RIGHT THERE.

>> I REMEMBER MARTIN AND RAY ON ANOTHER SHOW.

>> YEAH, LAUNCHED THEIR MARVELOUS CAREERS.

>> Caller: I WANT TO ASK CHARLIE, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT NATIONAL GUARD IN IRAQ PATROLLING STREETS.

YOU KNOW WHY THE NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVES WERE IN IRAQ?

BECAUSE WE HAD TWO DRAFT DODGERS AS PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS AND THEY COULDN'T CALL FOR A DRAFT BECAUSE THE RICH PEOPLE WHO PUT THEM IN AND PAID FOR THEIR CAMPAIGNS DIDN'T WANT THEIR KIDS IN THE ARMY.

>> WELL, ALSO, THE MILITARY SEEMS TO BE PRETTY SATISFIED WITH THE VOLUNTEER ARMY AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CALL, BUT I THINK WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND I'M A DRAFT GUY, TOO, MAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SEE YOU NEXT WEEK ON DONNYBROOK AND DONNYBROOK YOUR TURN.

>> HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

>> GO BLUES!