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[powerful music] - Not everyone who votes for Trump is a racist, but every racist voted for Trump.

- You stand up in the House floor and criticize without knowing what you're talking about.

- [Julian] They're on opposite sides of the same issue.

But can a good meal help settle their beef?

Come on now.

- No, I don't think so.

- [Julian] It's food for thought as guests agree to Eat & Argue.

- Joe Biden didn't bring the virus.

- I didn't even mention Joe Biden.

- Let's get real.

- The only people that can destroy this country is us.

- [Julian] Republican Congressman Peter King, and Democratic Congressman Tom Suozzi, sit down with me, Julian Philips, at Hendrick's Tavern, to dish out the facts.

- Pete.

- Good seeing you again.

- How are you?

- Very good.

- Julian, how's it going?

- Fantastic, Tom, fantastic.

- Nice to see you, thanks for having us.

Pete.

- Tom, how's the summit treating you?

- Okay, so far so good.

- Very good.

Can't wait to go back to Washington.

[men laughing] - Oh my god, I bet you can't.

[Julian laughing] - [Peter] We all love each other down there.

- Oh God.

- [Tom] Everybody gets along.

♪ Kumbaya, my friends, kumbaya But when we talk about gun control and immigration, perhaps it'll be a different story.

- We'll talk about everything.

- I got a salad for a democrat, since you mentioned that.

[Tom laughing] - What is this, is light-weight stuff for you Democrats or something?

- Pete's gonna have a chardonnay.

[Julian laughing] - Oh, please, don't give him anything harder than that.

- Cause I'm used to junk food, this is too much for me.

- Look at that steak.

- [Peter] Wow.

- My goodness.

- There you go.

- [Julian] Is this just for me?

- [Tom] Porterhouse for three.

Yeah, I'm going for the rarer the better.

- The one thing that I want to get at, and I think a lot of Americans really want to get at, is the whole issue of truth.

And everyday, when it comes to politics, there seems to be something different on the plate.

This morning I woke up and we found out that Joe Biden had a gaff, about talking about his experiences, Afghanistan, of pinning a Silver Star on a Captain, who apparently saved somebody, or whatever, found that he died, and we found out that story wasn't true.

And the Democratic pundits gave him a pass.

The question is, should he get a pass on that?

I want to ask you, Tom.

- Well, when I read that story I was like, can you think of how many misstatements and inaccuracies the President has?

I mean there's reports on it on a regular basis, nobody attempts to deny it.

There's all kinds of inaccuracies and misstatements on a regular basis.

[water pouring] So I think that they're holding Biden to a different standard than they're holding, not only the President but other candidates as well.

- But they gave him a pass.

- He's the Vice President of the United States of America, a senator, he's going 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

He's traveling all over the world, you conflate a bunch of events together, I could see that happening.

- Yeah, first of all, Joe Biden's a good guy, I don't think there's any malice in what he said.

You're in this business long enough and events start to merge together.

Something you did in 2009 may merge with something you did in 2012.

In the real world it's easy to make those mistakes.

Once they start focusing on it, then they can pick them up a lot easier.

- Look what happened to Brian Williams over at NBC when he basically-- - See, the difference there was Williams, he was more like trying to put himself at the center of heroic activities, - Right.

- Biden, Joe Biden, seems to be doing it more to show the goodness of the American troops.

I mean, Joe Biden is a bit of a storyteller, I don't mean that in a malicious way.

He speaks in metaphors a lot of times, so I-- - He's Irish, he's like some of the guys you know.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Look, I think the two of you guys are giving him a pass.

to me, I don't buy it.

- When everything is said and done, everybody's going to say that Joe Biden is a good guy.

he's saying that this guy was being very humble, and saying "Why, don't give me an award, the guy died."

- Okay.

- All right.

Conversely, you have Trump.

Trump has said so many things, and look I'm not taking sides with Republicans or Democrats at this table here.

But the fact of the matter is he's said a lot of things that either don't make sense, or are not true.

The one thing he said that I can pick out was this whole thing with Melania Trump, saying that she met Kim Jong-un, was a lie.

But people buy into this stuff.

People are getting killed in this country.

People are buying into this whole thing where Trump is talking about immigrants, and you have a guy that travels eight hours across the state of Texas, and all of a sudden, 31, 32 people are killed, because they're riding on his words and believing what he's saying.

All that is based upon a lie.

my thing is it should matter.

- I think it's dangerous though, to connect statements like that with somebody killing 32 people.

I mean, we have a lot of harsh debate in the country, I think some of it goes too far, but I think it's also part of the harsh debate then to blame everything that happens after that on a few statements.

I mean, to me it's unfair to connect President Trump to that anymore, listen, we probably had more shootings under President Obama than we have under Trump, and I'm not, believe me, I'm not blaming President Obama for them.

But to make a direct connection to these things, I think that goes a little too far.

- But Pete, you would agree that in today's world there's way too much hostility, there's way too much negativity, there's way too much divisiveness.

- [Peter] Um, yeah.

- There's this hostility that's building in the country where everybody's like going into their separate camps.

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- And it's literally killing the country.

- Yeah, we live in silos, parallel universes.

But again it comes from all sides, like when Steve Scalise was shot, it was by a Bernie Sanders supporter, or the one in Dayton was by somebody who supported Elizabeth Warren, I think.

I mean people out there are taking their beliefs to the extreme, and I think we all have to be careful about not trying to, for instance it's wrong for a Democrat to say that every Republican, or everyone who's in business is anti-worker, or anti-Black, or anti-whatever.

Just as wrong for Republicans to say that anyone who supports immigration somehow wants to have illegal rapists coming into the country, it's wrong to say that.

- I think that what's going on in our country is there is 435 seats in congress.

- [Julian] Um-hm.

- And of the 435 seats, 380 of them, approximately, are safe seats, you can't lose, because they're gerrymandered, they're drawn in a certain way.

The Republicans are all packed in over here, the Democrats are all packed in over there, and you're in these safe seats and you can't lose.

The only way you can lose is by losing a primary.

- Right.

- And very few people vote in the primaries, and they're usually the far-right for the Republicans, the far-left for the Democrats.

So everybody's pandering to the extremes, instead of doing the stuff in the middle to try and get deals done.

- So the fringes are controlling the country.

- Controlling the conversation.

- It's a combination of the fringes being encouraged on by watching their own favorite TV station, by going to their own social media, you can live in your own world.

And most of the facts you get can be accurate facts, but totally out of context.

So if you're hearing everyday that Donald Trump is the most evil person, or that Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton are the most evil people, some people are gonna act on that.

- So it goes with the whole Martin Luther King phrase "Sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

- Okay, I haven't heard that one, but that sounds pretty good.

[laughing] - Yeah, and what Tom said is totally true though, like probably the biggest lesson Republicans learned, it was a bad lesson, Eric Cantor was probably the most conservative majority leader anyone ever in a leadership position in the House of Representatives.

He was down the line, he was more conservative than John Boehner, he was Tea Party all the way.

He lost in a primary because of one immigration statement he made.

- He wanted to do some sort of immigration reform and he lost the primary to the hard-right.

- [Julian] Okay.

- And that's why a lot of people won't make a, there's so many deals.

Like, Peter signed on, he's a co-sponsor of a bill on background checks related to guns, okay?

It's a big deal, there's only a few Republicans did it.

I talked to a lot of other Republicans to try and persuade them, "Hey, you should really sign onto this bill, "it's a great bill, 90% of Americans support it."

"Well I'd like to, but I would lose the primary if I did."

- Okay, so here's, we have something here.

We have a kumbaya experience, in a sense.

You're out there with a press conference with Chuck Schumer, I affectionately call him Chucky Cheese.

- Okay.

- But you come together, as you know, from different sides of the aisle, and you talk about comprehensive background checks.

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- 90% of the people, according to the polls in this country, say we need background checks.

What is the problem?

How come we can't get something passed?

- Well, we just said it, people are afraid of the primaries.

- Over 60% of the people who vote in the primaries are opposed to them.

- [Tom] Right.

- And that's the problem you have.

- The Republican primary.

- Yeah.

- 60% of people, so you always hear people talk about how the President's got this base, he's got his base, he's got his base, he's got his base.

The people that vote in the primaries are a subset of the President's base.

So they're even more extreme, let's say, than the people that show up at the President's rallies.

It's a smaller group of people.

- Okay, so here's my point.

- Can you pass me the salt please, Peter?

- Here's my point.

Oh, and by the way, here's a real deal.

We can all agree there's one truth here, these steaks are pretty good aren't they?

- Very good, great.

- Excellent.

I'd like to get some steak sauce, though.

- You don't need steak sauce.

- [Tom] Do you know anybody here?

- These Democrats demand everything, you know?

[Tom laughing] - That's ridiculous.

- It's great stuff.

- Okay we'll find some steak sauce for you, Tom.

Everything that I hear, and I think everything a lot of people in the public hear, is that politicians, lawmakers, like you guys, are more concerned about your votes and getting re-elected, than making a conscientious decision for what you really feel is right.

The fringes vote.

So, if they're voting, and they're voting for something that you don't believe in your constituents, you're not gonna make the bold decision and say "Hey, look, "this is what needs to be done, "I'm gonna make a stand, "regardless of whether or not I get elected or not."

And I think that this country right now, for a lot of people feel that there are no strong leaders, there's no states-people, that are willing to stand up- - [Peter] Hey, here you go, you finally get what you want here, there you go.

- Thank you so much.

- [Julian] This is given to us by Hendrick's Tavern and George Poll.

- Yeah, I mean, Tom and I are trying to [indistinct], but any number of issues, we've tried to work together.

We've held news conferences, and we disagree on the issue to some extent, but we feel there's a common ground, and that's better than getting nothing done.

- I've been in politics for 25, 26 years, Peter's been around longer than that.

- [Peter] Longer than that.

- I would argue that compromise, in today's world, is harder than just being, yelling for your bases point as loud as you can, where everybody's like "Yes, he's so pure, "he's so strong, he's fighting for what he believes in!"

But you're not getting anything done.

Leadership requires you to actually work together with other people that you wouldn't necessarily always agree on 100%.

- Coming from New York, it's a little bit easier, from Long Island politics, cause we're used to negotiating back and forth.

I mean for instance, on the Republican side, in Washington, you almost never see a labor union person involved, or a labor leader.

On the Democrat side, probably not too many big business people.

Coming in from here in Nassau County, you go to a Republican headquarters on election night, you used to have labor guys, business guys, you have people, Jews, Christians, Black, White, coming together, and you find a way to get it done.

And that doesn't go on in Washington, we're pretty much pure down there.

Either you're pro-business, or pro-labor.

Either you're Conservative or Liberal, the idea of actually working something out.

As soon as you do, by the way, especially with social media, which is something we really haven't talked about, you're a Rhino, you're a sell-out, become a Democrat, you're as bad as they are, Tom?

- So Pete and I would both agree that most people, most of the people, the regular people out there, they're pro-business and they're pro-labor.

- [Peter] Yeah.

- They're pro gun violence prevention, and you should be able to have some Second Amendment rights.

They're somewhere in between, they want people to sit down and just work it out.

- Okay.

- So when Pete and I do stuff together, he gets criticized for being not strong enough for the Republicans, and I get criticized for being not strong enough for the Democrats.

[Peter laughing] - But we've got this big steak in the middle, and that steak is, we've got mass-shootings out here, and we've got blood flowing in the streets.

- [Peter] Serious stuff.

- And what you're saying, basically, sounds good, but we still do not have any universal background checks.

- [Peter] Right.

- Perhaps just even as a start.

- I agree.

- [Julian] And people are still getting killed.

- The Republicans are not passing these laws.

I mean, that's, Peter will agree with me.

- [Peter] Yeah, sure, yeah.

- I'm not making it a partisan thing.

The fact of the matter is the Democrats want to do stuff on this, they're passing laws, and most Republicans, not all Republicans, most Republicans won't get on board cause they're afraid of losing the primary.

- And there's an old saying, "If it's not about the money, it's about the money."

- I don't think the NRA is that big a factor.

- I'm glad you said that, that's what I was talking about.

- [Peter] Money-wise, I mean, other groups have more money, whatever.

It's the fact they have tremendous mailing lists, they have a base, and they can reach out into your district with one email, and turn out thousands of voters against you in the primary.

- [Tom] Yep.

- [Peter] And they have very good voter drives, so they can just say, "This guy, Congressman X, sold-out."

- But how many people are there, Pete?

How many people are there.

- There's so few people in the primaries, that they make a big difference.

- Yeah, I mean, the Democratic Presidential candidates, you see the impact of a primary.

They're taking positions that they never would've taken before.

- No, you're right.

- To win the primary.

- Right.

- But what about the rest of us, who are in the middle here?

Who just want a good steak.

- We need more of the people in the middle to actually participate.

- [Julian] So then how do you get them out there?

- The more pissed off they get, the more they're gonna participate.

- So you think now, things are gonna be different now, with this election?

- Well, people are starting to participate more than usual.

- Yeah.

- I mean, don't gloss over this whole primary business, because, we talk about President Trump, and he's a celebrity, Celebrity Apprentice, and he was, his rallies.

But whenever you look at everything, when it came to the primaries, the Republican primaries, he took the very far-right position on every single issue.

He took a very hard-right position on guns.

He took a very hard-right position on immigration, on abortion, every single issue he took was to please the base the limited number of people, that vote in the primaries.

And now the Democratic candidates, in the Democratic debates, are doing the same things.

They're all, people are watching these on the T.V saying "Boy, the Democrats sound so left, "they sound so left."

Because they're trying to appeal to this small sub-section of people, on both sides, that are controlling the debate in our country.

- Okay, so you're saying-- - And that's what Fox News does, and that's what MSNBC does.

- All right, but this is the first time I'm really hearing politicians say this.

- What Trump has going for him that the Democrats may not have, they may end up getting it, he did have the celebrity factor, which after he got the general election enabled him to get more votes toward the middle.

Labor union guys, working class people voted for him because they liked his style.

- [Tom] Yeah.

- And that was able to overcome some of the positions he took.

The Democrats may have somebody.

I mean, John Kennedy would've had the style, for instance.

I don't know if any of them there now do.

I think that's where Joe Biden is coming up.

- Please don't compare Donald Trump to John F. Kennedy, all right?

[laughing] - I was just going to segue into one of your people, I was going to say, but Joe Biden figures he does have that, not a superstar appeal, but something that goes beyond his policies.

- Regular man.

- Yeah, he's a regular man, he's a good guy, yeah.

- Average Joe.

- All right.

- Uncle Joe.

- But wait, isn't that what gets people elected?

- [Peter] I'm not being political.

- [Julian] I'll ask the average person, okay?

Who is a Trump supporter, or a conservative.

- [Peter] Right.

- And they say, "Well I voted for Trump "because I didn't like Hillary."

But when I ask them, "Well what is it about Hillary that you really don't like?"

They really can't come up with an answer.

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- Other than the fact that they don't like her.

Now, Bill Clinton, we know his story, and we know what happened to him with the impeachment, but people still liked him because they felt he was likable.

- [Peter] Right.

- Did you ever see the movie Primary Colors, about-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You remember that scene when Bill Clinton is in the doughnut shop in the middle of the night, and he's like, feeling, he's talking to the guy about his family problems and stuff?

It's like, Bill Clinton, you always felt that he cared about the people that he represents.

He cares about people, he likes people.

I think people will feel that way about Joe Biden, that he really likes people, he really cares about people, he's very empathetic.

He's been through so much tragedy in his life, that he really can feel for people, and, "I feel your pain," I mean, he's an example of a guy that really feels people's pain.

- I even noticed with Donald Trump, this was in the summer of 2015, when he was being attacked by everyone, saying things that people thought were outlandish.

Going to my grandson's Little League games, and you have these middle-class, blue-collar guys there, actually some were lawyers, different types, but again normal people, not political people.

- Right.

- "This guy Trump, he says what I'm thinking!"

Now I never asked them exactly what they're thinking.

[Julian laughing] But they saw in him, the way he was saying things, something they could identify with.

- Okay, you have people that voted for Obama twice and voted for Trump.

- Yeah.

- So you can't necessarily say these folks are necessarily racist, but the stuff that comes out of his, and people are saying, you have a lot of people that are saying that "If you vote for Trump you're a racist."

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- Well Hakeem Jeffries says, he says, "Not everyone who votes for Trump is a racist, "but every racist voted for Trump."

- I agree with that.

And as you eat that steak, that was a mouthful.

That really was, I really believe that.

- I would say, also, Trump is an equal opportunity offender.

I mean the things he said about everybody on the Republican side, including Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Carley Fiorina, you go down the list.

I mean, he is an equal opportunity offender.

- I'm not going to argue with you on that.

Trump said a lot of things as he descended down that escalator that resounded in the minds of people who sincerely believe that the problems of this country are immigrants, they're people of color, and a lot of folks responded to that.

When I went to my gym, "He's telling it like it is."

- I agree, he went too far, I'm not denying that at all.

- [Tom] Well.

- But also, I think Democrats have to watch it too, Democrats like in the debate, were constantly talking about how cops are out to kill innocent Blacks, cops are, and that's also totally unfair, especially since cops are considered to be white.

So that to me adds to the racial issue.

- You know what adds to the racial issue as far as I'm concerned, being a person of color, and I'm an Honorary Chief.

- [Peter] I heard that.

- Of NYPD, okay?

And I believe in blue.

And I think what a lot of people of color are saying is, "We're not saying that all cops are bad, "what we are saying is that men in blue "are not willing to weed out people that are."

"We're all gonna stick together."

- I disagree with that.

I mean obviously there's always some cases, but if you look at the numbers, I mean, all of the numbers are talking about African Americans who are unarmed being shot.

There are more whites, even percentage-wise, that are shot by cops who are unarmed.

It doesn't mean you are an innocent guy because you're unarmed.

I think a lot of those numbers are really taken out of context.

- I wanna say, we're spoiled here, certainly on Long Island, cause our cops are so professional, and there's very few instances that you'll hear on Long Island about cops behaving badly.

Are there some bad apples, yes.

- We have a race problem in this country.

- Yes.

- Okay?

Every time people are willing to talk about it, there's a pass for every [indistinct].

- [Peter] But also I think we should be giving cops credit they reduced crime by 80% in African American neighborhoods.

Think of all the Black kids that are alive today because of the NYPD.

I mean murders went from 2,000 to 200, and most of those murders occurred in minority neighborhoods.

- We have to make sure that the professional training that we give in places like Nassau County, that I believe that New York City, one of the best police departments in the country, when you hear about Ferguson, I don't know that those guys are getting the same training that we're getting in New York City or Long Island.

- But that also grew out of a lie, I mean "Hands up, don't shoot," he never said it.

And yet that went around the country as.

- Yeah, Pete, that probably is true.

Every time a cop is killed, unfortunately, in New York City, a lot of press, the community comes out.

Okay, you see it everywhere.

No one's saying anywhere that cops do not do a good job.

- Nobody's saying cops are perfect, no one' saying anyone is perfect.

You demonize one group, if you wanna blame all the racial issues on cops, if you wanna blame all the economic issues on-- - Wall Street.

Too many people in our country today wanna blame somebody for everything that's going on.

The president, the republicans, are trying to blame the immigrants and the muslims.

The democrats are trying to blame the rich guys, and the CEOs, everyone is trying to blame somebody for their problems.

It's not going to be solved by people yelling at each other and blaming somebody.

- [Julian] Right.

- It's gonna be solved by people trying to talk to each other, who wanna actually solve problems, find common ground.

- No one's blaming everything on the cops, or everything on Wall Street.

I think maybe the media might tweak it that way.

- I think you should read our Facebook page.

I'm not saying you are.

- [Tom] Yeah, yeah.

- But I'm just saying that the people who vote in the primaries, - What do we do about these people that vote in the primaries?

- Gob bless them for voting in the primaries, God bless them for having strong opinions that is driving the debate in this country.

That's good, that's America.

We just need more people to participate in the process.

Right now, everybody is so busy with their lives, with their jobs, with their families, with their private concerns, and it's like "Politics stinks, everybody's a bum, "nobody's any good, nothing I do matters anyway."

That doesn't work, democracy only works-- - [Julian] Okay.

- If all the people actually take it as a civic responsibility to participate in the process.

- Okay, so I'm gonna put both of your feet to the fire on this one, okay?

You made a good point here, we need more people involved in the process.

Shouldn't it be Tom Suozzi and Pete King out there making sure that the people get out there and vote, and talking about the importance of this?

- Try to get people to vote in a primary, try to get them to come out.

"Ah, fine, who cares, there's no."

They'll come out on Election Day.

I've been in some contested primaries where maybe you get 15% if you're lucky.

- 15% is the most you'll get.

- Yeah.

- Joe Crowley lost the election to Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, she's changed the whole country.

There's 750,000 people that live in that congressional district.

- [Julian] Um-hm.

- Must have been 400,000 people eligible to vote in the primary.

How many people voted in that primary?

24,000 people, 14,000 for her, 10,000 for him.

24,000 people changed the whole debate in our country.

- Um-hm, well 14,000.

- [Tom] Well 14,000.

So few people are participating, and you know what, I believe that there are people that actually want to discourage people from participating in the process.

They want us to hate all the politicians, hate the process, think it doesn't work, because they like the status quo.

How is it that everybody who runs for president, everybody, I don't care who it is, always gets made into a caricature in some way.

- Um-hm.

- Everybody kind of looks like a jerk sooner or later.

Every single politician looks like a fool at some point, why?

I believe that there are people that spend a lot of money that want you to actually think the whole process stinks, the whole thing is rigged, the whole thing is terrible, every politicians a bum, because if people don't participate, then you really can't change anything.

I'm eating way too much of the steak, you guys are not eating enough, so can you.

- Well no, no, no, Pete is drinking too much wine.

[Peter laughing] - You're gonna make an Irish remark.

[laughing] - I wouldn't, no, no, no, I wasn't gonna go there.

[Tom laughing] - I want you to know my father was born in Italy, and my mother's Irish, married to a Polish woman.

- I'm American Indian and Black.

- Okay, no Irish, huh?

- You're American Indian and Black?

- Shinnecock.

- You should have gone to Harvard.

[laughing] - Instead you went to Purdue, oh well.

- You can't walk away here we're agreeing on perhaps how it can change, but perhaps something needs to change.

- This is a great thing, we're sitting down, we're having a conversation, we're having a meal, Peter's drinking too much.

[men laughing] - Salute.

[men laughing] [glasses clinking] - Saluti a tutti.

- See, look at our glasses.

- Slainte.

[men laughing] But how do we not eat and argue, but eat, perhaps argue a little bit, but at the end of the day come away from a conversation that we can demand more respect, or gain more respect for the opposite person and their views?

- This is a backhanded compliment to congress, congress in many ways does represent the people in that people don't have Thanksgiving dinners anymore, the family, cause of the fighting that goes on.

- Unless there's liquor involved.

- Well okay, but I'm just saying what congress responds to are the loudest voices, which is wrong.

But a lot of the people out there, who say we're not getting anything done done want to see us get anything done.

As soon as we make a compromise they call us a traitor.

Like I'll have a guy come up to me and basically say, "You doing nothing on immigration."

I sit down and tell him we worked out a compromise.

"You sold out."

- So what you do as a leader is you fall on the sword, and you say "Okay, you might consider me a sell-out, "but I think I'm doing the right thing."

- Let me tell you, holding a news conference with Tom is like falling on my sword, believe me.

- Yeah, that's true, it's true.

There's gotta be something bigger than just yourself and what's going on right there, it's gotta be something more noble.

And the noble thing is America is a great experiment, it's a great place, and it requires us to try and work together to save it, to make it the best it can be.

And requires us to respect all men and women are created equal.

It's a simple as that, that this is a noble business, not a dirty business.

- I say try to create a climate where a Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan can make deals again.

- Yeah.

- I don't think what they did in the 80's could be done today.

As powerful as they were, you had the most liberal speaker and the most conservative president, and they worked things out.

- This may be the most important election nationally that we've had in a long time.

We understand that politics is indeed local, but in 2020 there's a lot at stake here.

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- Whether you are a republican or a democrat, as you said, there are issues here.

There's issues of climate change, which some say are not real.

- I say it's very real.

- It's very real.

You have issues here of immigration, which always has been around.

And what happens in 2020 perhaps may determine where we are as a country, and how other nations perceive us.

The question is, there's gotta be a way that a Tom Suozzi, a Pete King, can get together in a broader sense of lawmakers, and actually say "Hey guys, "we need to sit down at this table "and work stuff out."

I think everybody wants that.

- That's why even on a show with a guy like you, to try to bring together, with all the abuse you've given me over the years.

- Can I at least get you guys, with all the good things that you do as lawmakers, to go one step further to get your constituents out there to vote, to get people who are not on the fringes to come out there, and maybe that this one step may make a difference.

Can you agree to that?

- Yeah.

- I'm all for that, I think that the American people are hungering for people to work together.

Most people are normal people, they just say "Can't you just sit down in a room and work it out?"

- And our job is to get those people to vote in primaries.

- And also to tell the truth.

- Yeah, oh yeah.

- [Julian] And also to tell the truth.

- [Peter] Um-hm.

- When John McCain was pressed by a woman who said Barack Obama was a Muslim, he said "No, no, no, no, no."

- [Peter] Yeah, I agree.

- You don't get that from people on either side.

We need that, so we need people to come together, but we also need some semblance of the truth.

People need to understand that there's a certain truth about race and racism in this country.

And we need you guys to get up there and say it, no matter what the consequences may be, we need it said, there's too much at stake now.

Let's agree to that.

- Yeah.

- Salute.

- Salute a tutti.

[glasses clinking] - Slainte.

- All right.

- All right.

- [Julian] Guys, thank you so much.

- Thank you.

- You still have more steak here you gotta eat.

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